A Bit of Perspective
- Thread starter Finny
- Start date
Of course he's teasing 
Doesn't mean they are going to sign though.
Doesn't mean they are going to sign though.
Going back to the original subject. i.e. perspective and why fans are being so negative, here is my take on it. I think there are a number of different factors.
There will always be the 'not enough fights/physicality crowd. Thats not a criticism thats just the type of hockey some people prefer.
Then there are always some people who you will never please (e.g. is it becoming processional?)
But I think the two biggest factors causing negativity are
1) Sheffield syndrome. Just look at Steelers forum when they went from winning everything to being really good but not quite winning everything. You would think they went to bottom of the league.
Last year was an amazing season but everyone was hoping/expecting that we will top it by winning all the trophies this year and we didn't
2) We were teased by the sublime.
This team played some bloody incredible hockey at the beginning of this season. Noone in the league could contend with such skill and chemistry. Then it changed. What noone knows is why. It could just be that other teams got better but I and others suspect there is something more. Personally I think it is not a Lord issue, Kelman issue or owners issue. I have total faith in these guys. History tells me its a player issue. Who remembers Frank Evans punching Pope during a line change. Players do fall out over hockey, women, who got the assist, personality clashes and God knows what else. Whatever it is, this is still a damn good team but whatever has happened or is happening has cost us the dream of a clean sweep. So I understand some of the negativity.
That being said some of the criticism is OTT and I suspect that quite a few of the posts here and on facebook are made under varying levels of intoxication.
It is clear that some of the criticism is also getting to some of the players which will not help. That doesn't mean we should be censored but maybe we can all make an effort to be more positive and if we lose post our dismay after the first pint not the 6th. Finnys post is a good reality check. Things are actually pretty good (they are just not out of this world good).
So Im going to make an effort to be more positive. I hope others will join me.
P.S. I stopped drinking over a year ago so I have no excuses for anything stupid I have posted.
There will always be the 'not enough fights/physicality crowd. Thats not a criticism thats just the type of hockey some people prefer.
Then there are always some people who you will never please (e.g. is it becoming processional?)
But I think the two biggest factors causing negativity are
1) Sheffield syndrome. Just look at Steelers forum when they went from winning everything to being really good but not quite winning everything. You would think they went to bottom of the league.
Last year was an amazing season but everyone was hoping/expecting that we will top it by winning all the trophies this year and we didn't
2) We were teased by the sublime.
This team played some bloody incredible hockey at the beginning of this season. Noone in the league could contend with such skill and chemistry. Then it changed. What noone knows is why. It could just be that other teams got better but I and others suspect there is something more. Personally I think it is not a Lord issue, Kelman issue or owners issue. I have total faith in these guys. History tells me its a player issue. Who remembers Frank Evans punching Pope during a line change. Players do fall out over hockey, women, who got the assist, personality clashes and God knows what else. Whatever it is, this is still a damn good team but whatever has happened or is happening has cost us the dream of a clean sweep. So I understand some of the negativity.
That being said some of the criticism is OTT and I suspect that quite a few of the posts here and on facebook are made under varying levels of intoxication.
It is clear that some of the criticism is also getting to some of the players which will not help. That doesn't mean we should be censored but maybe we can all make an effort to be more positive and if we lose post our dismay after the first pint not the 6th. Finnys post is a good reality check. Things are actually pretty good (they are just not out of this world good).
So Im going to make an effort to be more positive. I hope others will join me.
P.S. I stopped drinking over a year ago so I have no excuses for anything stupid I have posted.
Great post and nothing more than what’s expected from a true Devils experienced fan, if you ain’t sure about the content then please read again, not sure about players falling out, but that bit was about seasons ago. We are a unbelievable team away from home, but have a huge barrier when it comes to home games. What the problem is, who knows. Let’s get behind the guys Saturday, let’s be the extra man for the rest of the home season. Then when we win the league, we can all say I done my part for that success, I was there and I done my bit for MY TEAM.
point of order Whistle signed Bowns
Whistle signed Bowns
And I agree with many points on here! ...as everyone knows, I can be a slightly controversial poster on here at the best of times. Deep down I believe we will be up there at the end of the season, despite our bad patch. As Finny says it's all dependant on what everyone's bar is for ice hockey. For me it was probably the Weller year, or where we overachieved and won the challenge cup, with an honourable mention for the start of the year where we were dismantling teams and they just couldn't cope with us!
I think people care because they spend their hard earned cash to come and watch the games, so if they're not being entertained, they're more than entitled to have a say. I for one never spend money on something if I don't care what I'm given! Sometimes I leave the rink thinking I've had a bargain, other times not so much. I'd like to say it all evens out over the course of the season but I've not been keeping a checklist...
In answer to Red Mist - there are plenty of people who care because they are fans - not because they calculate value for money for the ticket price
I have seen examples on here of people who can't afford a season ticket but buy the webcast regularly, there are those who live abroad who also buy the webcast - and not just Ice Time but all webcasts. I know people who have had season tickets through thick and thin.
Why do people care? Because they are fans and they just do care. Some turn up and go on away trips regardless of cost, the impact on overdrafts/credit cards or even current runs of form.
If you criteria is VFM then fine but I would suggest that you should allow a degree of criticism. The die hard fans as opposed to the VFM fans may feel they have a different perspective - and having gone through the lean years may seem to be happy clappers at the moment
This is not unique to the Devils but is common across all sports.
I have seen examples on here of people who can't afford a season ticket but buy the webcast regularly, there are those who live abroad who also buy the webcast - and not just Ice Time but all webcasts. I know people who have had season tickets through thick and thin.
Why do people care? Because they are fans and they just do care. Some turn up and go on away trips regardless of cost, the impact on overdrafts/credit cards or even current runs of form.
If you criteria is VFM then fine but I would suggest that you should allow a degree of criticism. The die hard fans as opposed to the VFM fans may feel they have a different perspective - and having gone through the lean years may seem to be happy clappers at the moment
This is not unique to the Devils but is common across all sports.
It’s worth remembering that there’s 20ish players on the opposition bench who are out to ruin your day, sometimes they will sometimes they won’t, the only thing the club can control is the off ice show.
Will you win the league, I think so
Will you have to fight tooth and nail for it, I hope so, I’d hate it to be a walk in the park and if it is, you are in the wrong league and have out grown it, but ladders are two way devices, so enjoy the sport not just the trophies
PS I’ve only attached my comment to the last one as it was the last post and invoked my thoughts, I’m not disagreeing with you pjj
Will you win the league, I think so
Will you have to fight tooth and nail for it, I hope so, I’d hate it to be a walk in the park and if it is, you are in the wrong league and have out grown it, but ladders are two way devices, so enjoy the sport not just the trophies
PS I’ve only attached my comment to the last one as it was the last post and invoked my thoughts, I’m not disagreeing with you pjj