Farewell to the Player

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Sliput

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#81
Finny said:
Is it really too much for the club to then put on a special event for people like me to say "Thanks For Supporting us last year. We really appreciate it".
I think your missing the point sliightly Finny...NO-ONE is saying that there shouldnt be a season ticket holders only party as has been said that money pays to get the guys over here /guarentee's housing etc...but my point is,what happens if we win the playoffs ?? over the weekend i will be spending roughly 250.00 pounds (not including food and drink) watching the Devils in Nottingham....it also costs me 30.00 every home game plus a 2 1/2hr car journey....i have also been to Belfast twice and Edingburgh twice..every Cov and Bison away game.....and yet i cant celebrate the playoff title with the team ? (not that i would go )BUT i'm sure there are loads of fans who have spent more money than season ticket holders going to away games etc....

Please dont get me wrong i am not suggesting at all that certain people deserve to say goodbye because of how well they have supported the team as i know that money is a huge factor these days and even if someone only attended one Devils game they are no less a fan than someone who hasnt missed a game all season....i just think that the Monday after the playoffs isnt the best day for a ST only party.

After all we KNOW we will be bringing the trophy home :D :lol: :D :lol: :D
 

Sliput

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#82
Vix said:
I think it's a little bit strong to say it's everyone's right to say goodbye to the players? Why is it everyone's right? Man U fans and Liverpool fans don't get to say a personal goodbye to their players and are they less fans for it?
Comparing football to ice hockey is totally unrealistic.

We all pay our money whether it be 350.00 or 13.50...so why alienate the people who cant afford to pay lots into the club. AGAIN...no-one is denying there should be a ST event but not on the day after the playoffs....incase we win :D
 

Finny

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#83
But this isn't a Playoff Celebration Party.
If/When we win the playoffs I would fully expect there to be an additional party to celebrate that. Lets cross that hurdle when we get there yeh?
Plus - if you are going to playoffs and we win - you can bet the players will be in the Castle afterwards celebrating anyway.

Someone made the good point that some fans feel they have the right to attend this. I'm sorry, but nobody does.

I guess some people are thinking that this is the normal end of season party and they are having it taken off them. That's not the way to look at it.

This is the Next Generation Devils and you have to forget about the past.

This is an additional event being arranged to say thank you to the fans who bought season tickets.

I can't believe that some people are so petty that they want there to be another party after this one so they can say bye too.

Are we going to have arguments over who will be the last person to shake Jay's hand at the end of the night.

"I'm not leaving til you leave"
"Well I'm not leaving til you leave"
"No. You leave first"
"Don't you dare make me leave before you".
 

Sliput

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#84
Finny said:
Are we going to have arguments over who will be the last person to shake Jay's hand at the end of the night.

"I'm not leaving til you leave"
"Well I'm not leaving til you leave"
"No. You leave first"
"Don't you dare make me leave before you".
Your not on Steeltalk now Finny so you can leave out the childish comments :(
 

Finny

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Sliput said:
Comparing football to ice hockey is totally unrealistic.

We all pay our money whether it be 350.00 or 13.50...so why alienate the people who cant afford to pay lots into the club. AGAIN...no-one is denying there should be a ST event but not on the day after the playoffs....incase we win :D
I didn't pay for tickets for the Dinner Dance on monday night. Should I have been allowed to just turn up and go in.
Perhaps if I offered to pay £2 and it be donated to charity. Then everything would be fine......

At the start of the season we were told being a Season Ticket Holder would allow you to attend special events. So far we've had nothing. Now we get this great gesture and some of you are trying to take it off us.

For all you know £50 of the season ticket could have been the entrance fee for this night. So if they charge £50 for non-ST to get in, everyone will be happy yeh?
 

Finny

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Sliput said:
Your not on Steeltalk now Finny so you can leave out the childish comments :(
It's not a childish comment. It's a very good point.

It's some people (not everyone) acting childish because they want to be the last person to say goodbye.
If the Monday night event in Callaghans was changed to a free for all, and then the following week another event for the ST holders was arranged - we would have the exact same problem.

Would there be this amount of complaints if no Farewell evening had been arranged?
No - people would have said goodbye on sunday or at the playoffs.
 

TheStub

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#87
Mind you, this shows how far the club has come this season. Instead of arguing over if an event is going to take place, or the quality of it, we are debating what is (lets be honest) a very minor point.

Actually, I don't like the Next Gen Devils now - they have taken away all the bad things we can moan about. Next, it will be deep discontent about the shade of yellow in the game stewards jacket.

It is a great time to be a Devils fan :D
 
#88
Everybody wants to say goodby together, it seems the st's are the ones who have a problem.

Funny average attendance last year 1350, only 400ish are st's.
 

Sliput

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Finny said:
Sliput said:
Your not on Steeltalk now Finny so you can leave out the childish comments :(
It's not a childish comment. It's a very good point.

It's some people (not everyone) acting childish because they want to be the last person to say goodbye.
If the Monday night event in Callaghans was changed to a free for all, and then the following week another event for the ST holders was arranged - we would have the exact same problem.

Would there be this amount of complaints if no Farewell evening had been arranged?
No - people would have said goodbye on sunday or at the playoffs.
Whether the party or whatever was on any night i wouldnt be going BUT the point i am making is that i just think it would be nice to have a night on Monday for everyone just incase we win........i was trying to be light-hearted but hey seems to have gone a bit ''WHOOSH''......my last post now because my point seems to be missed...... :geek:
 
#92
There are just a few things I would like to say on this topic.

Firstly, and I think most importantly, if the club say such and such an event is only open to this category of fan, then that's what it is and should remain. They shouldn't do a u-turn because of a few people on a forum - that would be idiocy on their part and would cause them bigger problems in future.

If this event has been deemed to be appropriate to be reserved for season ticket holders only, then fine - after all, there are various events throughout the year that not everyone can attend, such as sponsor evenings, and no-one complains about that.

For those who are saying "have an event mid-season", it's a bit late for that at this stage, really. Maybe they should have done, maybe they should have thought of this sooner, but they didn't and as far as I'm concerned, better late than never.

They definitely need to do something to make the season ticket better value. We became ST holders when we realised that we were going to every game anyway, so would be better off if we did. The saving isn't huge, but it's better than nothing. And nothing is what we get otherwise. The list of so-called "benefits" is pretty random, and I can safely say I've been able to take advantage of the discount on Ladies Night and nothing else. For my other half, who as a bloke is barred from Ladies Night for obvious reasons, there has been no extra benefit at all. As people have said already, there really needs to be something extra to make it attractive to people.

As far as "farewell to the players" is concerned, perhaps it should be renamed, then maybe there would be less of a feeling of entitlement. As far as I know, it's only been happening for a few years anyway, and the new management wasn't obliged to run it at all. This belief that everyone is entitled to go "to say goodbye to our players" reminds me a bit of what Sheffield fans did after they won the playoffs last year. They insisted, because "it's traditional", that the players had to be back at the arena in Sheffield by a certain time on the Sunday night so that they could celebrate with them. This totally ignored the fact that the team was quite happy celebrating where they were, and also the fact that there were fans who had actually travelled to Nottingham and been there to support their team, and who may have spent money to stay in Nottingham on the Sunday night, who were thus unable to celebrate the achievement they were actually there to see. I realise this situation is different, but it's equally ridiculous. If you're so sure that the Devils are going to win the playoffs, I'm assuming you've booked to go to Nottingham? If not, and you miss the chance to celebrate the hoped for victory on the actual day, then I would say that it's your own fault, and that is the reason I will always go to playoff weekend, just in case. I would hate to not be there when it finally happens. If it does happen this year, I'm sure the club would want to arrange something extra to celebrate properly.

I'm guessing that a few of the people who are so unhappy about this are really unhappy about the fact that it's an auction they won't be able to attend, rather than anything else. However, if there had been 100% uptake of player sponsorship, there wouldn't be any warm up shirts left to auction, so you'd miss out anyway. Would you still have such a problem with the event being for ST holders only in that situation?

And finally, a few practical points. I understand from the office that there will indeed be someone checking season tickets on the entrance, so don't bother turning up without one. I'm not even prepared to take the chance that they'll let us in if we forget to take them with us. If you're thinking you can borrow someone else's ticket and get in that way, best have some form of ID on you that proves you have the same name as on the ticket. I also understand that the venue would be too small if all 500 or so ST holders turned up, never mind everyone else. I doubt the club could get a venue big enough and still have a free event.
 
#93
Also why should a season ticket holder gain more than a none season ticket holder? Surely the discount in your ticket is enough. (tongue in cheek) For us who can't afford £300 we are doomed to having to pay more to seeing out team even though we can't afford to. And the team that through poverty has become hard to follow has kicked us whilst down by not saying bye. You as season ticket holders please let me have a morsel of joy from your table of contempt and let me come to the party. I promise I will not talk to the players and I will stand at the back of the room hoping to catch a slight view of a player through the season ticket holders mass of bodies. Then both our hopes will be realised, I will have seen the devils at the farewell bash, and you the Season Ticket holders will have had me put at the back. WIN WIN
 
#94
Also why should a season ticket holder gain more than a none season ticket holder? Surely the discount in your ticket is enough. (tongue in cheek) For us who can't afford £300 we are doomed to having to pay more to seeing out team even though we can't afford to.
It's like attracting sponsorship during the recession, to get people to part with lump sums of money upfront you need to give them a little extra than just a reduction in ticket price. Clubs live or die by their season ticket sales and if it means I can't go to another party at the end of the year but my club will be able to afford a quality first line center with the extra money season ticket incentives may draw then frankly I'm OK with missing out on the party.
 
#95
bubbles said:
You as season ticket holders please let me have a morsel of joy from your table of contempt and let me come to the party. I promise I will not talk to the players and I will stand at the back of the room hoping to catch a slight view of a player through the season ticket holders mass of bodies. Then both our hopes will be realised, I will have seen the devils at the farewell bash, and you the Season Ticket holders will have had me put at the back. WIN WIN
Lmao. Maria, look what you started now!
 
#96
Iceraider said:
Also why should a season ticket holder gain more than a none season ticket holder? Surely the discount in your ticket is enough. (tongue in cheek) For us who can't afford £300 we are doomed to having to pay more to seeing out team even though we can't afford to.
It's like attracting sponsorship during the recession, to get people to part with lump sums of money upfront you need to give them a little extra than just a reduction in ticket price. Clubs live or die by their season ticket sales and if it means I can't go to another party at the end of the year but my club will be able to afford a quality first line center with the extra money season ticket incentives may draw then frankly I'm OK with missing out on the party.

It's not the same and if you re read all my threads, I say there should be special invitation events. Farewell to the players should be for everyone even new people who we are trying to encourage to come next year.
 
#98
bubbles said:
Iceraider said:
Also why should a season ticket holder gain more than a none season ticket holder? Surely the discount in your ticket is enough. (tongue in cheek) For us who can't afford £300 we are doomed to having to pay more to seeing out team even though we can't afford to.
It's like attracting sponsorship during the recession, to get people to part with lump sums of money upfront you need to give them a little extra than just a reduction in ticket price. Clubs live or die by their season ticket sales and if it means I can't go to another party at the end of the year but my club will be able to afford a quality first line center with the extra money season ticket incentives may draw then frankly I'm OK with missing out on the party.

It's not the same and if you re read all my threads, I say there should be special invitation events. Farewell to the players should be for everyone even new people who we are trying to encourage to come next year.
I'll make this my last post as no doubt we'll be boring people soon, lol. The reason I feel events like the farewell and meet the players are good ones to have as ST exclusives is that people without season tickets will want to attend them. What is the point in adding a random night in the middle of a season only for ST holders, there is nothing special bout that. It needs to be one of the big events that will make people think "hang on if I get a season ticket then I can go to this event". Another meaningless mid season party wont really attract that many people. At the end of the day the club have made a difficult decision, one they probably knew would p off people in the short term but would pay dividends in the long term. Hope you see what I'm trying to get at :)
 
#99
Unfortunately I don't. 2 events for all Fans, (thats what we all are) Meet the players (1st one) farewell to the plyers (last one)

Bob the driver sorry mate you can't say by to the team you have done so much more.

Ps can someone buy me a season ticket and I'll pay you back weekly out of my giro for the games I can actually go to. Can't promise how many has i have a family obligation every fortnight in having my children miles away. If there are some keen season ticket holders that want to take up this begging request I will greatly apreciate it then I can go to the farewell meeting. On the other hand if there are no nice people out there to sponsor this poor wretch, then I will have to scrimp and save out of my giro (recession), that has to pay for electric,gas, water, food, (forget clothing) and transport to see childrento make home and away games and be told when i get to the white pearly gates of the final farewell that I am not worth to come in. Thanks. By the way I forget to mention I will need 2 season tickets as my good lady as also fallen foul to Gordon browns bank balance.

Hey ho supporting the devils out of poverty but still not allowed to say bye.
 
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