Riley Brandt

Wannabe2

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#21
If he ends up going to Guildford and we are playing them, score is 2-2 with 5 minutes to go, you just know he’s popping up with the game winner
Fair comment, but will he get the service he needs against our D to be Johnny on the spot. Guildford is not Cardiff fortunately, and I like Guildford.
 

jenks33

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#22
In terms of goal production then we have absolutely not upgraded.

But in terms of standard of forward player?

Caponi never played Pro until he joined us.
Ferguson played 3 games in the ECHL and then the whole of his pro career in the EIHL (bar 5 games in Slovakia during Covid)
Sanford had two short spells in the ECHL before joining us.

Caron has had three spells in the AHL and two in the Liiga
Mieho has spent the last decade in the Liiga or SHL.

I would expect the two new imports to be of a higher quality than the players leaving us. But neither have a history of scoring the goals that Ferguson and Sanford did. I guess the question is - will that extra quality be enough to stop teams scoring on us?
I've got no doubt Mieho will be Smart/Streetwise/Very responsible defensively i've just got that horrible feeling that he ends up being a 30ish point player (Which is probably nonsense when you consider the level he's played at for the past decade) when i think we might need a bit more than that from him offensively.
 

ASHIPP

Well-Known Member
#25
Got me a bit confused with the statement goal production won’t be better, but the players will be, but surely better players should score more in our league, their stats won’t compare obviously as their careers have been in better leagues.
The quality of the player only reflects their history and experience. It doesn't predict how they will perform in this league...so many variables (line mate chemistry, execution of tactics, fitness levels etc)

Former Devil Charles Linglet had a fantastic resume/CV. It didn't make him the top player in the league that season.
 

Wannabe2

Well-Known Member
#26
The quality of the player only reflects their history and experience. It doesn't predict how they will perform in this league...so many variables (line mate chemistry, execution of tactics, fitness levels etc)

Former Devil Charles Linglet had a fantastic resume/CV. It didn't make him the top player in the league that season.
Wicked player though, remember that play off goal.
 

RedDevil17

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#27
Whatever the criticism of Sanford, (and the poor guy has been vilified by some parts of the fanbase...why?) he has been a goal machine for the Devils. Would be very uncomfortable at the prospect of seeing him playing for a rival team.
We are not in a position to say anyone is an upgrade on anyone else. Won't have any idea whether the Team has improved until competitive games are played.
Poor work ethic imo. A good work ethic for me is non-negotiable if you’re a Cardiff Devil.
Gives away selfish penalties
Very inconsistent
Doesn’t get involved in the board battles

Whoever his replacement is out of Caron, Mieho or if it’s another newbie, it’s an upgrade.
 

Wannabe2

Well-Known Member
#28
If it’s good enough for Thommo it’s good enough for me, I like Sanford but if the Maestro says he can make us better then carry on Guvnor. When the team is completed I think we will be very Hapus iawn
 

Devils86

Well-Known Member
#29
The quality of the player only reflects their history and experience. It doesn't predict how they will perform in this league...so many variables (line mate chemistry, execution of tactics, fitness levels etc)

Former Devil Charles Linglet had a fantastic resume/CV. It didn't make him the top player in the league that season.
Any excuse for a bit of stat diving on Chucky and that 18/19 side. Although annoyingly the EIHL stat page and EP differ in their numbers so I have gone with EP...

(admittedly these may have some errors as I've added them up from the 2018/19 stats page and checked each player against each competition, so I may have misread somewhere. But ChatGPT wasn't having a great time providing accurate numbers!)

In 2018/19 Linglet put up 96 points across all competitions (league, challenge cup, playoffs, and CHL). Close behind him were Martin (90), and Fournier and Mike Hedden (both 84). Darcy Murphy at Giants put up 101, although he wasn't in the CHL (where Chuck put up 2 points) he was in the Conti Cup where he got 9 points against lower quality opponents.

Domestically it was Linglet 94-92 Murphy

So was he the best that year....arguably.

Of note, the top scorers for the Devils across the post-Covid seasons across all domestics and European competitions were:

2021/22 - Brodie Reid (77)
2022/23 - Cole Sanford (84)
2023/24 - Marcus Crawford (74)
2024/25 - Josh MacDonald (79)
2025/26 - Kristoff Kontos (66) - albeit with no European competition
 

fridaysfingers

Well-Known Member
#30
The quality of the player only reflects their history and experience. It doesn't predict how they will perform in this league...so many variables (line mate chemistry, execution of tactics, fitness levels etc)

Former Devil Charles Linglet had a fantastic resume/CV. It didn't make him the top player in the league that season.
If not statistically which he may have been according to above post, but to my mind he was the best player in the league.
I just loved watching him
 
#31
If the last three signings are Brandt, Kontos, Macdonald i'm not sure how i feel about it. I like all three players but personally i wouldn't look at our group of forwards and think to myself "we are definitely stronger up front this season". Basically the meaningful changes would be losing Sanford, Ferguson, Perlini, Lacroix and adding Caron and Mieho + banking on Yaremko staying fit. I'm not saying it won't end up being a stronger group of forwards but i don't think anybody can say at this stage (If it does end up being Brandt, Kontos, Macdonald) we've definitely upgraded in that area. I love the look of our goalies and defence but i think we're in danger of standing still a bit with our group of forwards. Let's see what happens with the remaining three announcements though.
when you look at a players effectiveness (basically how often they score compared to every shot they take), it’s pretty obvious Paul looked at the bottom 5 import forwards and binned 4 of them. Olichefski is the only one staying, and the only one to beat him was fergs.

Perlini is the only odd one out, since he was our best Brit (if those returnee lists are right).

every single one of the ones apparently leaving had a effectiveness percentage under 8%. you could argue if they were even good enough themselves?

a massive problem we had last year was finishing. we had the most shots on goal out of any team but our forwards just couldn't beat the goalie.

for context, 2nd, 3rd and 4th for Shots on Goal were only separated by 45, but we were 1st, and beat 2nd by over 100.

if you wanted to improve in that area (which we needed to, and badly) Paul has done exactly what i think any coach would do. got rid of the worst ones (if your list is correct, of course).
 

Rempel16

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#34
I've got no doubt Mieho will be Smart/Streetwise/Very responsible defensively i've just got that horrible feeling that he ends up being a 30ish point player (Which is probably nonsense when you consider the level he's played at for the past decade) when i think we might need a bit more than that from him offensively.
Yet his CV when translating to this league suggests he will be a ppg, or close to it.
 

jenks33

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#35
Yet his CV when translating to this league suggests he will be a ppg, or close to it.
Chances are he’s going to do very well at this level but I don’t think it’s as simple as saying he’s spent a decade in the Liiga so he’s going to light this league up. He’s been a career 4th liner so even at EIHL level it might take a while to get used to different expectations.
Personally I think it’s easier to predict how well proven point scorers at ECHL/DEL2/ICEHL players will do at this level. You just know Archambault at Sheffield and Bates at Belfast will be up there with the top point scorers. With Mieho his 200 foot game will be great but I’m not entirely sure what to expect point scoring wise.
 

Rempel16

Well-Known Member
#36
Chances are he’s going to do very well at this level but I don’t think it’s as simple as saying he’s spent a decade in the Liiga so he’s going to light this league up. He’s been a career 4th liner so even at EIHL level it might take a while to get used to different expectations.
Personally I think it’s easier to predict how well proven point scorers at ECHL/DEL2/ICEHL players will do at this level. You just know Archambault at Sheffield and Bates at Belfast will be up there with the top point scorers. With Mieho his 200 foot game will be great but I’m not entirely sure what to expect point scoring wise.
Just basing it on players like Markus Erikksen who have similar rates of conversion. He clearly believes that he can come in and play that offensive role expected of him.

I don’t believe that.his experience of Liiga alone would suggest he scores well. I think it’s the combination of that, and the things Steve King said, whereby Thommo has clearly done his research.
 
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