Season ticket news
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Absolutely spot on, that’s exactly what I picked up on, if you, me, us, are the lifeblood of the club then let us know. We all want the same objective at the end of the day, and without sounding aweful loyalty is a dying thing, so when you receive it then hold onto it with both hands because it’s a thing that won’t be around for ever.
There will be many Season Ticket holders giving serious contemplation to whether or not they renew their STs for next season. Many will be long time ST holders and the price hike will for some may be too much - which is very sad, but at the end of the day, this is TK's business - how he chooses to run it is his own business and nobody elses. Nobody is forcing people to be ST holders. To that end we all have a choice.
Does TK really care who his ST holders are? Absolutely not. He knows he has a long list of people willing to replace existing ST holders. TK's only interested is getting the money/budget that he feels will enable him to compete with teams that have significantly larger arenas and hence much larger budgets. Personally, I believe he is misguided in that aspiration, as for reasons which will become clear, we simply can't compete with Arena teams for income
The Cardiff Devils did in fairly recent times have had successful season after successful season, but we also had a truly exceptional coach (Andrew Lord). The times since Lordo left have been largely bereft of the successes we had when Lordo was in charge of the team. Yes there have been one or two accomplishments, but these have been infrequent flashes in the pan, where the Devils have successfully punched well above their weight.
Put simply the Vindico is too small for the Devils to compete effectively with Sheffield, Nottingham and Belfast. Hence the calibre of skillset of player the Devil's can attract has a ceiling. Put bluntly the Devils ceiling is the floor that the Panthers, Giants and Steelers stand on. Until such time as the Devils can be hosted in a venue of 7,500+ then the prospect of repetitive championships will remain a past glory - Sad but true
Does TK really care who his ST holders are? Absolutely not. He knows he has a long list of people willing to replace existing ST holders. TK's only interested is getting the money/budget that he feels will enable him to compete with teams that have significantly larger arenas and hence much larger budgets. Personally, I believe he is misguided in that aspiration, as for reasons which will become clear, we simply can't compete with Arena teams for income
The Cardiff Devils did in fairly recent times have had successful season after successful season, but we also had a truly exceptional coach (Andrew Lord). The times since Lordo left have been largely bereft of the successes we had when Lordo was in charge of the team. Yes there have been one or two accomplishments, but these have been infrequent flashes in the pan, where the Devils have successfully punched well above their weight.
Put simply the Vindico is too small for the Devils to compete effectively with Sheffield, Nottingham and Belfast. Hence the calibre of skillset of player the Devil's can attract has a ceiling. Put bluntly the Devils ceiling is the floor that the Panthers, Giants and Steelers stand on. Until such time as the Devils can be hosted in a venue of 7,500+ then the prospect of repetitive championships will remain a past glory - Sad but true
Things just doesn't add up for me.
We are told that they can sell more match night tickets (non ST seats) than there are available, then can "loose" and have lost £900 on group tickets over 2 recent games, the reason given for the GG 900 tickets is to "attract " new fans, in the same breath we are told there is a standby list of people wanting ST's, not just the current fans who will not renew but new fans. So why the need of group deals.
Rising costs, yeah we know,it's affecting us all but at a lower % increase.
Plant maintenance etc should have been built into the business model and depreciated year on year at an absorbed cost.
For me this is an Oh shit moment we cannot compete with arena teams so we need better players etc.
The fly in the ointment now is that the arena teams are putting their prices so the financial and skill gap will be the same.
We are told that they can sell more match night tickets (non ST seats) than there are available, then can "loose" and have lost £900 on group tickets over 2 recent games, the reason given for the GG 900 tickets is to "attract " new fans, in the same breath we are told there is a standby list of people wanting ST's, not just the current fans who will not renew but new fans. So why the need of group deals.
Rising costs, yeah we know,it's affecting us all but at a lower % increase.
Plant maintenance etc should have been built into the business model and depreciated year on year at an absorbed cost.
For me this is an Oh shit moment we cannot compete with arena teams so we need better players etc.
The fly in the ointment now is that the arena teams are putting their prices so the financial and skill gap will be the same.
what scary is he gone down the WRU route when ticket demand was huge based on results, look at them now. He has outpriced families, and to suggest it same as cinema or bowling shows lack of reality while sat in his £200 jumper. The club give`s me a feeling of being lied too on things, one made me think twice was the car parking being one of them, told on here the devils get no revenue from it, but now it shows devils on the bank statement.
Biggest issue is people knows he don`t give a shit, we used to be a forum but it feels like as a fan base now we are not listened too especially older fan base, we feel very unwanted, look at horrid logo, most merch in the shop don`t have the new logo on it.
Biggest issue is people knows he don`t give a shit, we used to be a forum but it feels like as a fan base now we are not listened too especially older fan base, we feel very unwanted, look at horrid logo, most merch in the shop don`t have the new logo on it.
Financially, comparing the Devils with City is indeed apples with swedes. Though the figures relate to last year when they were a Championship team, this article on City's recently-posted losses mentions some pretty eye-watering amounts, including £7m interest paid on loans. That alone is many times the Devils wage bill. Having an owner and associates able to chip in 10s of millions makes City's circumstances very different to any EIHL club.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/crrxezv4wg4o
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/crrxezv4wg4o
Did they decrease when you went to the Premier league? Let's for arguments sake say they were £100 (I'm well aware they are more and have different tiers of pricing). In the championship that's 23 games, so would have been £4.35 a game, premier league is 19 games so would be £5.26 which is just under a 21% increase.....
Yes cardiff rfc gone through the roof last season, you can get early bird tkts standing 30 to 32 quid or 35 quid for derbys just to stand in the rain obviously more to sit. And yes season tkts well over 300.00 for 11 games, and thats only 80 mins as opposed to 2hr 30m at vindico no thanks to that, down to WRU took over the club .rather sit in the vindico watching 32 games and more entertaining most games and my tkt cost around 21.85 game
Actually I'm pretty sure they did.
That first year in the Premier League, my season ticket was still on a 5 year price freeze and IIRC it was around £360. However, some of my friends didn't have the price freeze.
When they announced the season ticket prices, those without the price freeze went up by over £100!!!!
And then we got relegated. So they were expecting fans to pay over £500 for Championship football.
That first year in the Premier League, my season ticket was still on a 5 year price freeze and IIRC it was around £360. However, some of my friends didn't have the price freeze.
When they announced the season ticket prices, those without the price freeze went up by over £100!!!!
And then we got relegated. So they were expecting fans to pay over £500 for Championship football.
One of the main reasons CCFC lost £35,000,000 last season is paying mediocre/rubbish players over inflated wages whilst they were strutting their stuff and being out played virtually every match, virtually all those players were moved on or had their contracts terminated (18 or 19 I believe).
The players kept on for this season have had their wages approx halved by all accounts plus there's about half a dozen players moved up from the academy and other young hungry players recruited.
Also the ownership/executives have wasted so much money on law suits taken out against Nantes which they have lost each time.
As businessmen you'd think they would run a tight ship but seem to just go gung ho with the finances.
One positive is they kept ticket prices the same as the previous season both season and match day and an under16's season ticket could be purchased for £64 yes that's £64, adult tickets were up for approx £260 ISH I believe, so for around £330 you could attend with your son/daughter to all league matches this season.
This Sat a crowd of between 25-27,000 is being forecast and at those generous prices you can enjoy some grub a beer and programme as parking is available for free if you're prepared and can walk maybe 8-10 mins up the road.
We all have a choice and it's up to us what we consider value for money.
The players kept on for this season have had their wages approx halved by all accounts plus there's about half a dozen players moved up from the academy and other young hungry players recruited.
Also the ownership/executives have wasted so much money on law suits taken out against Nantes which they have lost each time.
As businessmen you'd think they would run a tight ship but seem to just go gung ho with the finances.
One positive is they kept ticket prices the same as the previous season both season and match day and an under16's season ticket could be purchased for £64 yes that's £64, adult tickets were up for approx £260 ISH I believe, so for around £330 you could attend with your son/daughter to all league matches this season.
This Sat a crowd of between 25-27,000 is being forecast and at those generous prices you can enjoy some grub a beer and programme as parking is available for free if you're prepared and can walk maybe 8-10 mins up the road.
We all have a choice and it's up to us what we consider value for money.