PAYMENTS STILL OUTSTANDING TO CARDIFF DEVILS’ PLAYERS!
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Didn't someone say they rang Future Financials back in March and they confirmed it would be possible to get a refund if they wanted?
I feel very sorry for those who have renewed and are worried they will lose their money. Though I'm optimistic that the law would be on their side and they'd get (most of) their money back.
I feel very sorry for those who have renewed and are worried they will lose their money. Though I'm optimistic that the law would be on their side and they'd get (most of) their money back.
You're kidding me right? The sources are the players and the club themselves, the players have told CDRA they haven't been paid and the club haven't said a word when contacted - that's pretty good sources for me.
And facts? That is personal information in almost all cases. It's someone's salary, that isn't everyone's business and has no reason to be in the public domain.
The article is 9 paragraphs and explanation, what more do you want?
And facts? That is personal information in almost all cases. It's someone's salary, that isn't everyone's business and has no reason to be in the public domain.
The article is 9 paragraphs and explanation, what more do you want?
I can't believe some fans still have reservations and want figures quoted and who is owed what? This coming out at all was really last resort as some players are way more affected than others and feared getting nothing by speaking out.
I hope the club fix it but I am not holding my breath on that but either way our standing as a club is at stake if this doesn't get resolved.I know it shouldn't be down to the fans to bail the club out and help the players concerned but how good would it feel to be part of something that made this right?
This should be a wake up call for a lot of people and even if we are in for a torrid next season at least this awareness can stop it happening again.
I hope the club fix it but I am not holding my breath on that but either way our standing as a club is at stake if this doesn't get resolved.I know it shouldn't be down to the fans to bail the club out and help the players concerned but how good would it feel to be part of something that made this right?
This should be a wake up call for a lot of people and even if we are in for a torrid next season at least this awareness can stop it happening again.
I agree knowing the actually details is not for public debate, its an issue for the people involved.
I would like to know though are we in the thousands or tens of thousands, I'd be surprised if the amount is in the low thousands, that would indicate Ragan is deep in the dooh dooh or is actually very backward when it comes to money and Public relations, it would have been wise to pay up just to alleviate public disdain had it got out, well that boat has sailed.
The statement due on Tuesday is likely to deny the rumour and contain a few reasons why etc etc.
I feel the courts are needed to give judgement on the subject, I would be surprised if there is reasonable grounds to withhold payments that Ragan would not at least look into the CDRA statement and look towards any issues with that.
Until either party actually involves the courts I don't believe we will know, I cannot see Ragan simply handing over the cash as that admits liability and players if there owed money should at least go to court to get a Judgement against Ragan, then we would know for sure.
Its an easy situation to move forward and it needs to happen sooner rather than later, for all involved.
I would like to know though are we in the thousands or tens of thousands, I'd be surprised if the amount is in the low thousands, that would indicate Ragan is deep in the dooh dooh or is actually very backward when it comes to money and Public relations, it would have been wise to pay up just to alleviate public disdain had it got out, well that boat has sailed.
The statement due on Tuesday is likely to deny the rumour and contain a few reasons why etc etc.
I feel the courts are needed to give judgement on the subject, I would be surprised if there is reasonable grounds to withhold payments that Ragan would not at least look into the CDRA statement and look towards any issues with that.
Until either party actually involves the courts I don't believe we will know, I cannot see Ragan simply handing over the cash as that admits liability and players if there owed money should at least go to court to get a Judgement against Ragan, then we would know for sure.
Its an easy situation to move forward and it needs to happen sooner rather than later, for all involved.
What a load of twaddle ! You say you have been a supporter for over 25 years......
Then how come you forget that Jon Pelle didn't resign for us because Ragan moved him out of his flat, whilst he was on holiday, and put him into a bedsit with no internet access which Pelle needed to complete his Uni course. Ragan even had his belongings stored in the offices in boxes until Pelle came back from his holiday or Brad Voth flying home a week before Stevie Lyle's testermonial and not playing in it but Ragan bought raffle tickets and bid on Voth's shirt at the testermonial dinner the night before the game. Then Ragan wouldn't give the raffle winners the first prize, a pair of season tickets, as he said this hadn't been agreed with him. Stevie Lyle even offered to pay for the tickets out of his own pocket as he felt so embarrassed .
Finally what about the DCF ice fees not being paid for quite a while yet there are over 150 kids whose family pay £55 per month not to mention the Learn to Play who paid £10 a session but were never given a receipt as this went straight into the back pocket of Pope first and then Ragan once Pope became general manager, thus robbing the VAT and HRMC.
If you want the names and details of how much they are paid I suggest you start the ball rolling by putting YOUR NAME, DETAILS OF WHERE YOU WORK AND YOUR SALARY on here first !
Posts like yours are an insult to the CDRA Supporters Club and every real Devils fan !
Mods why are you letting posts like the one above on here as all it does is incite peoples anger !
If you want to ban people like me and Jody for being passionate about the way fans, sponsors and players are being treated by Ragan and sometimes we get a bit heated in our replies to idiots,and yes that's what they are, who post stuff like this then go ahead and ban me.
Mooney hits the nail on the head there. The EIHL must take action against teams who run themselves into the ground only to phoenix as a way of getting out of paying creditors - especially if those creditors are the players which are registered under the EIHL banner. They have a duty to protect players as much as possible on the ice, why not off it?
If Ragan, and any other owner, does not pay their players immediately his franchise should be taken off him and put out to tender again. He is unfit to operate a club.
It's about time the league started acting in the interests of fans, players and the sport itself rather than an old boys club full of cover ups. It cannot be ignored.
If Ragan, and any other owner, does not pay their players immediately his franchise should be taken off him and put out to tender again. He is unfit to operate a club.
It's about time the league started acting in the interests of fans, players and the sport itself rather than an old boys club full of cover ups. It cannot be ignored.
I can't understand why people find it so unreasonable that I and others want to understand the extent of the problem?
I don't want to know each individual and the pounds, shillings and pence owed but at least something like 'we know of 2 players owed a weeks salary' or 'half the squad are owed a months salary' or 'all the squad have not been paid 50% of their salaries over the whole of last season.'
Many fans aren't 'in the know' and don't know any of the details quoted about Pelle, Voth, Lyle, DCF etc etc but do need the information that backs up the statement.
Its not an unreasonable request!
I don't want to know each individual and the pounds, shillings and pence owed but at least something like 'we know of 2 players owed a weeks salary' or 'half the squad are owed a months salary' or 'all the squad have not been paid 50% of their salaries over the whole of last season.'
Many fans aren't 'in the know' and don't know any of the details quoted about Pelle, Voth, Lyle, DCF etc etc but do need the information that backs up the statement.
Its not an unreasonable request!
Petercw, if it was just one or two players owed a weeks wages or don't you think it would have been sorted by now. Would the club really be that stupid for things to get this far over a few hundred quid/a grand or so? The fact the club are unable to pay it and stop this getting out so publicly, alludes to it being a considerable sum of money.
Regardless of amounts, it doesn't make it right. I would certainly have a massive problem with my employer if they didn't pay me a days wages let along weeks/months and expenses. Put yourself in the position of the player before trying to downplay it.
Regardless of amounts, it doesn't make it right. I would certainly have a massive problem with my employer if they didn't pay me a days wages let along weeks/months and expenses. Put yourself in the position of the player before trying to downplay it.
I emailed office@eliteleague.co.uk
its a bit like complaints@planetice.co.uk a black hole, dont expect a reply
