Cardiff Devils vs Hull Stingrays - Sun 6pm - Chat/Updates

[icebaby]

what about Latulippe? I just heard from me old matey that he was spearing the Hull bench with his stick? Lets hope it doesnt become tit for tat if Knight and Voth are banned then both teams should leave it at that as theres no point opening a can of worms as video will probably show a lot more players doing things people didnt notice at the time.

At end of the day noone was hurt (except egos) if someone was hurt then yes go for the player but otherwise its the start of the season and both teams should move on without making tit for tat.

 

[drummer-ricky]

just got back from the game and WOW, what a dramatic end, from what i could see, knight jumped michel and had him down on the ice, hill then took kinght out and max and heartwick and i think jarvis all grabed a hull player each and all piled on, during this voth was reliesed from the box as his penalty was up and was escorted to the bench, knight was escorted off the ice takeing a de-tour past the devils bench calling a few choice words, and then went round the back and it all kicked off, a few players also left the ice to join in and the steward looked rather scared (don't blame him lol), even the kit man got in on it steping on the ice and pulling a player off the bored's to throw a punch, but got hit by some 1 on the bench, it was utter chaos, security was called behinde the benches and time was run down with no re-play when everything had calmed down, hull where sent straight to the dressing room while devils where still on the ice, will be interesting to see what the league have to say

ricky

 

[hockeyfan207]

Firstly, I wasn't at the game so am not in a position to comment on it. However I would just like to make a couple of general observations

In the heat of the moment things can happen that are bang out of order- however equally there can sometimes be an overreaction when these events happen. I would therefore only suggest that both teams sit down in the cold light of day and discuss the events and decide between them what course of action they would like to take. By the sounds of it the league will be placing bans independently for both sets of players, therefore I would hope neither team tries to pursue getting individual players banned (i.e. the way nottingham campaigned against kozak and sheffield against voth). A stick being thrown into the bench is certainly highly acceptable and does deserve a massive ban, however if it simply players trading punches-no matter how unsavoury-them I would only hope the bans would be proportionate to the actions incurred.

I really believe it’s in neither team’s interests to have major bans handed to either voth or knight or any other player unless absolutely essential. Voth in the past has been goaded by others teams and labelled, sometimes rightly and sometimes wrongly, as a thug. I therefore would only say to please bear this in mind when you say the same about Knight. Back to back games have no doubt not helped, but lets all try to keep our feet on the ground and think calmly before we start to call for heavy bans on individuals.

I have always admired Cardiff as a physical but skilful team and as a Hull fan I have always wanted a side similar to yours. Finally thank you for the updates on the inferno tonight. It really is much appreciated. Good luck to you guys for the rest of the season, I hope their is not too much bad feeling between the sides.

Fantastic post...but i think you meant to put unacceptable :lol:

Well ... you hope he/she did :mrgreen:

I'm a he-season ticket holder at the rays.Lasts nights game was 'chippy', so it doesn't suprise me that it kicked off, but even i never thought it would to that extent.

 

[Ladybug]

Having just got back from the game with my hair full of beer thanks to some idiot I have to say how disappointing the end of the game was. It was Huppe who threw the stick in a very dangerous manner, I sit right above the away players bench so saw it all. The whole of the Hull bench dived over behind the benches and behaved in my opinion atrociously. This brings themselves and the game into disrepute. Knight's actions were appalliing, he behaved like a complete neanderthal. What a shame that this team are such sore losers - this is a family game and should be about good sportsmanship. This was definately lacking tonight.

 

[Gazza272]

Right, its such a shame that the Awesome display by the third line (Davies-Towe-Hayes) will be over shadowed by what was utter madness.


Bottom line is, Hull spent the entire night niggling, slashing, hooking to try and take us off of our game and the game had a sinister under tone all night. If an enforcer is going to jump someone about a foot shorter than him the nthe other enforecer is going to try and batter him and thats excactly what happened.


From the face off with 20 seconds left Knight jumps Michel, just as this happens Voth's penalty had expired. which led to Voth steaming in to try and protect Michel. this sparked a few other scuffles on the ice. Following the break up of these Knight skated over to the bench and made some remarks, whcih really kicked Birbrear off, birbrear swung his stick in the direction of Kight and it hit the board in front of him (he had his hands on his stick at all times)


Following this the ref unwisely sent both knight and Voth out at the same time, so their walks to the changing rooms led to them making eye contact with each other, they started mouthing and Knight clearly took more steps towards Voth to start the fight again, from Block 12 here i couldnt see the fight as the Devils bench immediatly turned around.

What i did see from here however Was Sylvain Cloutier trying his best to try and get at Voth, smashing the door nearest the devils chaning room in Anger, and also saw clearly Curtis Huppe Launch a stick Javeline style onto the Devils bench, now everything else i think could be worked out, but what that numpty did was luckily it didnt enflame everything further, throwing a stick like that is mindless and was an act which could have sent things properly out of control, and i hope out of all of this Huppe is made the biggest example of.


Shame all of the good performances from the Devils and Hull players this evening will be over shadowed byt this manic few closing moments

 

[scrappy]

Sobering thought - Hull may have cost us quite dear. A nasty check may have put Smith out for a few weeks, and their down right dirty play may have resulted in Voth (and maybe Adams if the league take sanctions) being banned.

Two, maybe three imports down - and that is if the league don't pick anyone else out for punishment, or if no-one picked up an injury in the scuffle.

And Hull made Adams jump onto the ice during an altercation did they?

The hit last night on Mark Smith was a big hit but completely fair!

Brad Voth is a law unto himself!

 

[Gazza272]

Sobering thought - Hull may have cost us quite dear. A nasty check may have put Smith out for a few weeks, and their down right dirty play may have resulted in Voth (and maybe Adams if the league take sanctions) being banned.

Two, maybe three imports down - and that is if the league don't pick anyone else out for punishment, or if no-one picked up an injury in the scuffle.

And Hull made Adams jump onto the ice during an altercation did they?

The hit last night on Mark Smith was a big hit but completely fair!

Brad Voth is a law unto himself!

Adams was no where near the final altercation from what i could see, And Vother did what an enforcer does. If a big guy lays into a smaller guy the other Enforcer goes after him, what would you expect him to do, shake knights hand and say 'well done fella'?

 

[icebaby]

so in the midst of this why did huppe throw a javelin?

 

[scottydoesntknow]

Sobering thought - Hull may have cost us quite dear. A nasty check may have put Smith out for a few weeks, and their down right dirty play may have resulted in Voth (and maybe Adams if the league take sanctions) being banned.

Two, maybe three imports down - and that is if the league don't pick anyone else out for punishment, or if no-one picked up an injury in the scuffle.

And Hull made Adams jump onto the ice during an altercation did they?

The hit last night on Mark Smith was a big hit but completely fair!

Brad Voth is a law unto himself!

Hull are a very dirty team this year. They constantly slash and foul the opposition trying to make them instigate a fight which, when they do Hull back down. I'm just glad that a few members of that dirty Hull team got what was coming to them sooner rather than later!

 

[andrews87]

In fairness to G if he was involved at the end i think it was only as Voth seemed to be out numbered big time. I was at the game and Knight fully deserves the book throwing at him. After he left the ice and saw voth getting thrown out he has walked 'past' his own changing room and went straight for voth who has just left the ice. Voth has no choice but to defend himself as Knight has completely lost it and there was no security or refs behind the bench. Didnt have a great view of the fight but it went on for a while and voth must have been getting the better of it as the hull players take it upon themselves to break the plexi behind there bench and make there way over to were voth and knight are still going at it. Now just for that alone they should get some sort of bans and i think it was Huppe threw his stick at the devils players. This has obviously caused a near riot and the devils players are now trying to get over there bench to help out voth. So back to my original point if G was involved at the end i dont really think he had much choice as vother was on his own behind the devils bench and there seemed to be alot of hull players behind there!

 

[TheStub]

The hit last night on Mark Smith was a big hit but completely fair!

And therefore probably the only clean thing Hull did all weekend.

Hull seems to have a more skillful team, but have lost any class.

 

[icebaby]

I heard Latulippe was throwing his stick around plenty so maybe a ban coming for him?

It just gets more out of control

 

[Iceraider]

Scrappy your year in the wilderness could be worth it if Hull continue like this. They certainly will be exciting to watch.

Matt Towe was my MoM tonight, he centred the second and third lines superbly, he took a great deal on physically and didn't back down from anything all night. Best gamee I've seen him play as a Devil.

 

[Woodzie1989]

"Adams was no where near the final altercation from what i could see, And Vother did what an enforcer does. If a big guy lays into a smaller guy the other Enforcer goes after him, what would you expect him to do, shake knights hand and say 'well done fella'?"



I seem to remember Voth going after Jamie Thompson last year after Thompson had made a fair hit on a Devils player. So isn't this similar to Knight going after Michel for his hit on Glowa which led to Glowa not icing the remainder of the game? I'm not sticking up for the Stingrays as I wasn't at the game so I can't comment on what actually happened.

 

[TheStub]

Hopefully they will let most of it go tit-for-tat.

But I expect Voth and Knight will both be facing bans. Depends if they include the Michel incident in the Knight investigation.

 

[bigbaz]

I think the original Adams comment was in relation to what he did in order to get his game misconduct.

someone must of recorded it ... get it on youtube!

I also find an earlier post rather ironic about Knight going after a player a foot smaller than him ... Voth's been doing it for years! ... his check to the head of Dan Carlson last year as a prime example!

 

[scrappy]

Sobering thought - Hull may have cost us quite dear. A nasty check may have put Smith out for a few weeks, and their down right dirty play may have resulted in Voth (and maybe Adams if the league take sanctions) being banned.

Two, maybe three imports down - and that is if the league don't pick anyone else out for punishment, or if no-one picked up an injury in the scuffle.

And Hull made Adams jump onto the ice during an altercation did they?

The hit last night on Mark Smith was a big hit but completely fair!

Brad Voth is a law unto himself!

Adams was no where near the final altercation from what i could see, And Vother did what an enforcer does. If a big guy lays into a smaller guy the other Enforcer goes after him, what would you expect him to do, shake knights hand and say 'well done fella'?

I never said the final altercation i was replying to fact that a member had said Hull might have caused the Devils to be missing 3 Imports. Lets take a look back at why this happened and our enforcer started on Michel, Didnt michel get 2+10 for cross checking or checking to the head on Jeff Glowa? Causing him to miss the rest of the game... The fact he didnt fight at the time was for Hulls Benefit as they were trailing 1-0 at the time and the game was more important at that point. Then obviously when the game was over as a contest the time to be punished had come and Knight did what he did ON ICE to show that you are not going to get away with hurting someone and then Voth does his Job too! I am in no way condoning what happened over and beyond the regular goings on of a game!

 

[Gazza272]

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I seem to remember Voth going after Jamie Thompson last year after Thompson had made a fair hit on a Devils player. So isn't this similar to Knight going after Michel for his hit on Glowa which led to Glowa not icing the remainder of the game? I'm not sticking up for the Stingrays as I wasn't at the game so I can't comment on what actually happened.

The reasons for Knight going after Michel are irrelevant to my point. If any enforcer goes after someone smaller they are going to have to answer to the teams other enforecer. If Voth did that last season i fully expect the oppositions Enforcer to get involved.Thats what they are there for to stick up for guys like thompson and Michel

 

[samidevils]

what i said on THF

I am disgusted.....

I'll say what I saw from the block behind the goal.

Knight (who honestly was gooning it up all night), hauled down a devils player (i thought it was Davies), swung him around and wass hitting him in the face when on the floor. Voth steamrolls in hitting knight. Hartwick wants to fight, Thompson seems not to, Hartwick starts smacking him.

Voth and Knight are ejected, Birbraer is swinging his stick towards Knight, (not hard) when leaning (still on the bench). I see nothing more after as to what happened, only that Knight instigated by walking towards Voth mouthing.

A stick is hurled towards the devils bench (huppe?) and hits a devilws player on the back. By this time Hull players are leaving the bench and banging the door to get out to Voth/Knight. At LEAST 3 Hull players (Burns was definitley one), open the door and go to Voth, Devils players are climbing the back plexi on the bench waving their sticks, - One Hull player is going mental at the devils door trying to get out. Cloutier was dragging Birbraer off the bench by him neck/shoulders and a devils player holding his waist, this was very dangerous IMO.

All in all I think bans will be handed to the following players:

Voth
Birbraer
Hartwick? Maybe small 1or 2

Burns
Knight
Huppe
Cloutier
and AT LEAST 2 others who left the bench.

Hulls bench had hardly anyone left on it so i'm not sure how the league are going to deal with this one......

Knight should be banned for a long time, as with Huppe? if it is proven to be him who threw the stick.

Both teams were in the wrong, however Hull instigated the fight on the ice, (knight), and he seemed to be the one who walked to Voth to fight. Also Hull players left the bench and ice to fight.

As for the game, Michel hit Glowa from behind and got 2+10, Glowa didn't ice again....

Devils dominated, Hull had a goal washed out (not sure why), and their first goal should not have been as 2 devils players had just been interfered with off the play, both on the ice, Hull break.

Hull don't look much different than last seaon, bit tougher and bit better going forward, defensively poor, goalie looks ok.

 

[Gazza272]

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I never said the final altercation i was replying to fact that a member had said Hull might have caused the Devils to be missing 3 Imports. Lets take a look back at why this happened and our enforcer started on Michel, Didnt michel get 2+10 for cross checking or checking to the head on Jeff Glowa? Causing him to miss the rest of the game... The fact he didnt fight at the time was for Hulls Benefit as they were trailing 1-0 at the time and the game was more important at that point. Then obviously when the game was over as a contest the time to be punished had come and Knight did what he did ON ICE to show that you are not going to get away with hurting someone and then Voth does his Job too! I am in no way condoning what happened over and beyond the regular goings on of a game!

Fair comment, it was the 'Voth is a law unto himself' comment which i took umbridge with. Considering that Knight going after Michel was always going to cause what happened, I agree with Knight doing his job also.