Devils Vs Giants - Sunday 12th Jan - 6pm - Chat
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Re: Devils Vs Giants - Sunday 12th Jan - 6pm - Chat
I think you've got to do your home work for a start and have someone as the main man (coach) with experience and contacts to enable us to make the decision whether they would be a good fit for us and to attract them in the bloody first place. We're carrying a few players and I think something has to change. I feel really sorry for smith marsh and especially plumpton who is effectively being made to play about 8 different roles because the balance is all wrong
I think you've got to do your home work for a start and have someone as the main man (coach) with experience and contacts to enable us to make the decision whether they would be a good fit for us and to attract them in the bloody first place. We're carrying a few players and I think something has to change. I feel really sorry for smith marsh and especially plumpton who is effectively being made to play about 8 different roles because the balance is all wrong
Re: Devils Vs Giants - Sunday 12th Jan - 6pm - Chat
Firstly, how dare you even humorously suggest I take recreational drugs. Please retract and apologise as that is a libellous attack on me personally. I have no time for anyone involved in hockey who is involved in taking drugs, on or off the ice. They certainly deserve no place at the Cardiff Devils.
Secondly, I can't imagine where I got the idea you were fed the info. This was the best kept secret in Devils signings for years. The Club announced it prior to face-off at the game on Nov 1st. Terry Phillips synchronised with this and also went online at 7:30pm, 1st. The Clubs actual PR went out on 2nd Nov.
Yet amazingly, unbelievably, the man who has admitted himself he was asking Paul Ragan for signing info posted this prior to all that happening:
Firstly, how dare you even humorously suggest I take recreational drugs. Please retract and apologise as that is a libellous attack on me personally. I have no time for anyone involved in hockey who is involved in taking drugs, on or off the ice. They certainly deserve no place at the Cardiff Devils.
Secondly, I can't imagine where I got the idea you were fed the info. This was the best kept secret in Devils signings for years. The Club announced it prior to face-off at the game on Nov 1st. Terry Phillips synchronised with this and also went online at 7:30pm, 1st. The Clubs actual PR went out on 2nd Nov.
Yet amazingly, unbelievably, the man who has admitted himself he was asking Paul Ragan for signing info posted this prior to all that happening:
Re: Devils Vs Giants - Sunday 12th Jan - 6pm - Chat
So I get told to wind my neck in for defending myself? Interesting moderation. FWIW I battled Bob for years. I am au fait with libel and slander. He tried both. I stand by my response. Implying my post was anything to do with recreational drugs is a weak-minded, aggressive and pathetically ill-informed attack. But that's just me attacking the post and not the poster. Shame more can't do the same.
So I get told to wind my neck in for defending myself? Interesting moderation. FWIW I battled Bob for years. I am au fait with libel and slander. He tried both. I stand by my response. Implying my post was anything to do with recreational drugs is a weak-minded, aggressive and pathetically ill-informed attack. But that's just me attacking the post and not the poster. Shame more can't do the same.
Re: Devils Vs Giants - Sunday 12th Jan - 6pm - Chat
Im not sure if I read it on elite prospects when searching for who it might be, or seen it on twitter/Facebook/told at rink or even gueesed it by looking at who might have played with our players previously (which iv tried and hugely failed at previously) but the one thing I can assure you is I have absolutely no personal relationship with paul ragan (in fact my family has negative history with him in the business world) and if you said james Snelson to him I bet he'd have no idea in the slightest who I was! Your assumptions are completely wrong, unfounded and to be honest a little sad. Not everyone wants to be involved in the inner workings of the club. I wouldn't even volunteer (although I respect and applaud those who do) because I only actually care about on ice product and have no time for the rest of the b.s that goes with it.
As for saying your hurt by me joking? Get a grip. Your playing the victim now. As if anyone actually thought that I was serious :roll: I have no idea hardly who you are let alone what you are about. Just for clarity I apologise unreservedly if anyone was hurt by my words or could sence I was joking in an extremely sarcastic manner. My sarcasm can be lost in text I guess
Im not sure if I read it on elite prospects when searching for who it might be, or seen it on twitter/Facebook/told at rink or even gueesed it by looking at who might have played with our players previously (which iv tried and hugely failed at previously) but the one thing I can assure you is I have absolutely no personal relationship with paul ragan (in fact my family has negative history with him in the business world) and if you said james Snelson to him I bet he'd have no idea in the slightest who I was! Your assumptions are completely wrong, unfounded and to be honest a little sad. Not everyone wants to be involved in the inner workings of the club. I wouldn't even volunteer (although I respect and applaud those who do) because I only actually care about on ice product and have no time for the rest of the b.s that goes with it.
As for saying your hurt by me joking? Get a grip. Your playing the victim now. As if anyone actually thought that I was serious :roll: I have no idea hardly who you are let alone what you are about. Just for clarity I apologise unreservedly if anyone was hurt by my words or could sence I was joking in an extremely sarcastic manner. My sarcasm can be lost in text I guess
Re: Devils Vs Giants - Sunday 12th Jan - 6pm - Chat
Libel 1) n. to publish in print (including pictures), writing or broadcast through radio, television or film, an untruth about another which will do harm to that person or his/her reputation, by tending to bring the target into ridicule, hatred, scorn or contempt of others. Libel is the written or broadcast form of defamation, distinguished from slander which is oral defamation. It is a tort (civil wrong) making the person or entity (like a newspaper, magazine or political organization) open to a lawsuit for damages by the person who can prove the statement about him/her was a lie. Publication need only be to one person, but it must be a statement which claims to be fact, and is not clearly identified as an opinion.
Libel 1) n. to publish in print (including pictures), writing or broadcast through radio, television or film, an untruth about another which will do harm to that person or his/her reputation, by tending to bring the target into ridicule, hatred, scorn or contempt of others. Libel is the written or broadcast form of defamation, distinguished from slander which is oral defamation. It is a tort (civil wrong) making the person or entity (like a newspaper, magazine or political organization) open to a lawsuit for damages by the person who can prove the statement about him/her was a lie. Publication need only be to one person, but it must be a statement which claims to be fact, and is not clearly identified as an opinion.
Re: Devils Vs Giants - Sunday 12th Jan - 6pm - Chat
Don't want to take this off topic but Jester that is a definition from an American legal dictionary, British law defines it further. If Paul feels, and can prove that a joking reference on a fan forum will cause substantial harm to his reputation he'd have a point, it would be libel. Legal threats and bully boy tactics were definitely a tool of Bob yes, it's a shame to see people still try and take that tact.
Don't want to take this off topic but Jester that is a definition from an American legal dictionary, British law defines it further. If Paul feels, and can prove that a joking reference on a fan forum will cause substantial harm to his reputation he'd have a point, it would be libel. Legal threats and bully boy tactics were definitely a tool of Bob yes, it's a shame to see people still try and take that tact.
Re: Devils Vs Giants - Sunday 12th Jan - 6pm - Chat
The British law currently states you have to prove a comment provided 'Substantial' harm and not just 'harm' to your reputation.
I would fall off my chair if anyone thought Jimmy made anything other than a sarcastic comment. It wouldn't even make the papers. Especially since Alcohol which is a legal substance could be classed as a recreational drug.
I do think there's a point I wouldn't want anyone with an illegal substance abuse problem linked with the club though, the same way I wouldn't want anyone involved in illegal activity linked with us. For example Jester I would guess you weer delighted as anyone when Chris Knight was removed after the terrible allegations from his past. I think that is something we can all agree on.
The British law currently states you have to prove a comment provided 'Substantial' harm and not just 'harm' to your reputation.
I would fall off my chair if anyone thought Jimmy made anything other than a sarcastic comment. It wouldn't even make the papers. Especially since Alcohol which is a legal substance could be classed as a recreational drug.
I do think there's a point I wouldn't want anyone with an illegal substance abuse problem linked with the club though, the same way I wouldn't want anyone involved in illegal activity linked with us. For example Jester I would guess you weer delighted as anyone when Chris Knight was removed after the terrible allegations from his past. I think that is something we can all agree on.
Re: Devils Vs Giants - Sunday 12th Jan - 6pm - Chat
Careful adam I had my first beer in 1996 and find your accusation of late development beer drinking really offensive.... I also would find it offensive if someone hadn't drank after watching us concede 11 :lol:
Right thats me done with this absolute rubbish. We were crap but hopefully with a few more fit bodies and pope out the country we might play better and get a tidy result in the semis
Careful adam I had my first beer in 1996 and find your accusation of late development beer drinking really offensive.... I also would find it offensive if someone hadn't drank after watching us concede 11 :lol:
Right thats me done with this absolute rubbish. We were crap but hopefully with a few more fit bodies and pope out the country we might play better and get a tidy result in the semis