Re: My Bumper Cardiff Devils debate thread for boys (and gir
Paul Sullivan said:
buzzwagon said:
I think a few of you are firing off names of European players but just because they were born in Europe doesn't mean they were schooled or coached in Europe.
A lot of young European prospects end up being taken over to N.America to be coached.
I'm sure if you ask Max I believe he went over to N.America as a teenager.
So just because a player is born in Europe doesn't. Necessary mean he learnt his trade there.
Hush you with your factual nonsense. Next you will be telling us that Mr Kurka had a lengthy spell in North America.
I would still like to see how the Devils North American imports faked against the top Euro leagues. Slavia Praha would trot past any team in the elite league, with their majority Czech raised and trained players. We are also forgetting the number of top flight NHL players signed from Europe on try out contracts. Like Bruner for NJ (formerly Detroit). The systems around the world are largely becoming harmonised.
Paul Sullivan said:
This nationality debate is academic, frankly, and has only become an issue due to PR saying the League has changed to go in that direction, which is simply not true unless you see the Devils as the ones doing the changing (23 non NA imports in the League and we have 7).
I think his message is confused, but the thrust true. The IIHF (and NHL) and therefore the elite league are pushing a more open passing style of play through their choice of rules and how they enforce them. This is a long debate, but I think there is a convoys but unspoken desire to reduce the "fighting" to change the image of the sport. That is a debate for another thread... In the off season when we're bored.
But when we are taking about Euro I actually hear "faster, skilled player who can skate with the puck".
Maybe Brent has confused him message to his boss (for a change)
Paul Sullivan said:
For me I don't see too many fans questioning the origin of players.
I do, a lot. On here and social media. Mooney has got it quite right, you support all the players or none of them. The new and the old. We should want them to all be treated fair.
quote="Paul Sullivan"]I see them questioning the quality of them.[/quote]
Often on the basis of never having seen them play, or having seem the situations we've signed them to play in.
quote="Paul Sullivan"]If we signed extremely low-rent Canadians they wouldn't be happy then, either.[/quote]
Finally what the argument should be.
Good players are good players. Regardless where they are from.
The benefit of signing the same quality euro player over a Canadian is the up front costs. Cheaper flights, no visas to apply or pay for etc. It is a good market for us to look in... If our budget remains the same we could pick up a stronger squad. Mixing in the academic draw for top end players from anywhere in the world.
Signing Euros doesn't change the quality of the squad, but signing useless players from anywhere does. Can we judge how useless the recent signings are yet?